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Red Dead Redemption 2 Idealism and Pragmatism for Beginners Walkthrough

October 28, 2018 by dalailama1989 18 Comments

Idealism and Pragmatism for Beginners is a Stranger Mission Strand (Side Questline) in Red Dead Redemption 2. This Walkthrough shows how to complete the Stranger Missions.

Quest Giver: Mayor Henri Lemieux
Region: north-western Saint Denis, during night-time
Requirements: having finished The Gilded Cage (early Chapter 4) and received Lemieux’ letter

To be able to start this quest, keep a lookout for an on-screen-message about unopened mail in the top left corner.

Travel to any Post Office and get your mail. After reading the letter by Lemieux, you can meet him in his residence at night-time.

Idealism and Pragmatism for Beginners Starting Location


After having met the Mayor in an earlier quest, we are the perfect man to solve some of his political problems in unpolitical ways at night-time.
Lemieux needs us to revise someone’s opinion about the authenticity of some pictures.

Hop in the carriage with Jean-Marc, the Mayor’s assistant – he will tell us about the things we need to know along the way.
The professor, who needs to change his view on the facts, will be at the Art Gallery in Town. Once he leaves, we can follow him to a more private area with no witnesses in the backyards.
Simply confront him and use any means necessary to make him change his mind. Once done, return to Jean-Marc and report to him. He already fears the worst.

Part II


A few days after the first mission and after receiving a second invitation letter, we can meet up with the Mayor at night-time once again.
This time he needs help to raise funds for a Library. He and Jean-Marc point us to a carriage from a wealthy man, who needs some persuading.

Ride to the northern edge of the town and hop on :square: the driving coach. Have a little chat with the victim and threaten him by nearly throwing him out of the carriage.
Of course, this will change his mind about things and he is willing to donate. Easy to make a philanthropist out of anybody!

When the next night falls, head back to Lemieux and report about your successful campaigning.

Part III


Lemieux will be happy about your results, but has another problem at hand. Jean-Marc. He has been against all of the Mayor’s crooked decisions and poses a threat to him. Or so he thinks at least.
He tells us his address and wants us to confront him.

Arthur chooses the easy way and knocks Jean-Marc out and wants to carry him over to the Mayor’s residence so the can talk things out.
Beware of the Lawmen on the way back. Check their field of view on the minimap. You have to cut through the park in front of you to reach the destination without being seen.

In the backyard of the Mayor’s residence, the two talk to each other, but the Mayor only sees one way out: He wants us to kill Jean-Marc and heads inside.
Jean-Marc begs for mercy and it is up to you, how to proceed.
Spare him by holstering the weapon and walking away gives a bit of honor, while killing and disposing of him makes your honor go down a bit but gives a 10% discount in all of Saint Denis’ shops.
No matter what you do, you won’t cross paths with him again.

This concludes the “Idealism and Pragmatism for Beginners” Stranger Mission in Red Dead Redemption 2 (RDR2). For all other Stranger Missions check out the full Red Dead Redemption 2 Stranger Missions Walkthrough.

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Comments

  1. Shortbread Head says

    October 31, 2018 at 2:34 am

    this is total crap, I came here to find out if there would be any consequence for killing him, ie would it lock you out of any future missions. You could at least provide this for players because I’m sure others are here for the same reason

    Reply
    • dalailama1989 says

      October 31, 2018 at 3:08 am

      If Jean-Marc was an important Character, I would have mentioned that the final decision was an important one.
      He won’t be seen again, no matter what you choose.
      The only thing which can have an impact on future missions (loss of honor when killing) was already outlined.
      Having not enough honor can lock you out of missions, which is outlined in the general Trophy Guide.

  2. P3rf0rm4 says

    November 2, 2018 at 5:33 pm

    I saw the letter only after the end of Chapter 4, and now the task does not appear on the map. can i get platinum without it?

    Reply
    • DEAD says

      November 16, 2018 at 7:11 am

      Make sure you look at night, it’s only available at night.

    • jsfpac says

      October 18, 2019 at 3:10 pm

      DEAD,

      THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I was in Chapter 5 and thought I lost that side mission but I waited until night and it is still available. You’re awesome!!

  3. Mark says

    November 5, 2018 at 6:27 am

    So I shot him because I was desperate for money, and seeing as the mayor promised to pay me “handsomely” I shot him, yet when the mission concluded, I hadn’t been paid anything. Is this a glitch or do you not just get paid?

    Reply
    • dylan says

      November 14, 2018 at 10:28 pm

      No you get a 10% discount at all stores in st. denis

  4. Carlos says

    November 5, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    I received a letter from one “Jean-Marc Mercier”, telling me that he was the new mayor of Saint Denis, and that they were grateful for what I’ve done for the city.
    Not sure if it’s the same Jean-Marc though.

    Reply
    • AurthurMorgan says

      December 6, 2021 at 3:53 am

      It is

  5. Donta Alexander says

    November 7, 2018 at 12:24 am

    Will I still get paid if I spare him?

    Reply
  6. Nikita Eremeev says

    November 10, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    If you spare him, you will later receive a mail from The Mayor’s Office (collectable at post office) with expressing gratitude for your help.

    It will become evident that Jean-Marc is the new Mayor.

    Reply
  7. Armando Sanchez says

    November 13, 2018 at 6:44 am

    Why did I get a bounty are sparing Jean Marc’s life? Weird.

    Reply
    • Lavvy says

      April 27, 2021 at 1:11 am

      Oddly enough, I got the same thing and ended up with a $240 bounty in Lemoyne State. I got it when I rode past Jean-Marc’s home in Saint Denis.

  8. Xxxx says

    November 21, 2018 at 9:12 am

    Can i do that mission im epilog 1 ?

    Reply
    • Bonza says

      December 2, 2018 at 1:11 am

      Yes you can, i did after finishing the game

  9. Aaron says

    December 18, 2018 at 7:10 am

    The important thing is whether or not the Jean Marc living or dying has anything to do with Albronte?

    He had the mayor in his pocket, so does this choice have any effect on that?

    Reply
  10. Qwertyuopsdcgh says

    January 6, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Honestly if your looking for the more canon choice spare him which is what I did. Like Arthur says when you spare him is I’m not paid killer which can is true, so sparing him is the better choice.

    Reply
  11. woodrew says

    April 23, 2019 at 6:21 am

    if i complete this as Arthur does John still get the discount? im assuming yes?

    Reply

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